Aigarius Blog (Posts about debconf6)http://aigarius.com/categories/debconf6.atom2021-06-30T20:20:36ZAigars MahinovsNikolaDebconf t-shirtshttp://aigarius.com/blog/2011/08/08/debconf-t-shirts/2011-08-08T11:08:07Z2011-08-08T11:08:07ZAigars Mahinovs<p>http://www.flickr.com/photos/aigarius/5991970488/</p>
<p>Here is one more photo from Debconf11 that has been missed in all the excitement - t-shirts from all Debconfs so far: from Debconf3 up to Debconf11. I was a bit late in stitching it together, so it appeared in the middle of the photo stream and people missed it.</p>
<p>P.S. I also took a bit of time to add some labels to the photos so the people that were not there would know what is happening in the image.</p>
<p>P.P.S. Talking to few key people (housing, venue, catering, networking) to prepare Latvia bid for Debconf13 is in full swing now. :)</p>Debconf6 last days: Hugs and goodbyeshttp://aigarius.com/blog/2006/05/31/debconf6-last-days-hugs-and-goodbyes/2006-05-31T15:05:46Z2006-05-31T15:05:46ZAigars Mahinovs<p></p><p> </p><p>May 21st & 22nd.</p> <p>The last days of Debconf went under the banner of a "hug day" - everyone was encouraged to hug everyone else for whatever reason or for no reason at all. Gunnar was group hugged several times.</p> <p>Number of people declined rapidly during the Sunday and very little people were left there by Monday, but everyone continued hacking until the network connection was dismantled.</p> <p>In the evening there was chatting, Mao, relaxing and generic photography.</p> <p>It is kind of sad that the Debconf is over. It has been as wonderful as ever and more exciting then ever. Now we can only return to our everyday lives and wait for the next year. Manjana*(365+x)!</p>Debconf6 day 7: Lightning and splashinghttp://aigarius.com/blog/2006/05/31/debconf6-day-7-lightning-and-splashing/2006-05-31T15:05:06Z2006-05-31T15:05:06ZAigars Mahinovs<p></p><p> </p><p>May 20th.</p> <p>The day started with an important meeting that was aimed at getting our priorities straight for the Google Summer of Code (SoC) program. Many good and some not so good applications have been proposed to Debian by students from all around the world. Now it was the time for Debian to choose the best of these proposals and rank them according to our priorities. We did not know how many applications Google will grant us, so we had to get our rankings right through the whole scale. We want to be sure, for example, that after this meeting project ranked 5th would be less useful to us then any of the first four, but more useful then all others. The discussions were short and very on topic. Rankings were determined quickly and mentors for all selected project were appointed. AJ leading the BOF was very helpful in making decisions when they had to be made. Now we only need to wait and see how many application slots Google will give us.</p> <p>A set of lightning talks followed. The talks were very different: some were funny, some were serious, some were too fast, some got to get boring. The one talk I want to highlight especially is a talk by Joey Hess about what Debian can learn from Gentoo. Especially handling of configuration files on package upgrades was raised as an example. Gentoo is an interesting distribution that is developing very separate from Debian, so it is quite possible that upon closer inspection there are other things that Debian could use from what Gentoo is doing. That only needs some closer inspection by someone with in-depth knowledge in both systems.</p> <p>Right after the lightning talks I want off to prepare for the second group photo - the fun photo in the pool. It was planned just before lunch. The start was small and easy - 15 people easily make a swirl by the side of the pool. As people continue to join maintaining order becomes harder and harder despite all efforts of self-organization on the part of all people involved. The swirl grows, deforms beyond recognizability and then straightens out again, just to be deformed again by newcomers. Just like Debian.</p> <p>When the number of people grew to 50 I decided that we no longer can get a better swirl in any reasonable timeframe, so I called that shot done and called everyone to group into a single bunch for a different take on the fun group photo. That was much easier except for the splashing fight that broke out in the back rows and took over the whole group as soon as I called that the second fun group photo is also done. After that all went for lunch.</p> <p>The next thing I went to was the discussion about the Debconf7. Apparently it was not supposed to be a public discussion, but after a while the consensus of open discussion prevailed and candidate cities for Debconf7 started their presentations. Edinburgh was the first candidate - they had it all: good transport connectivity, good Internet, nice facilities, nice living places. It was not clear about the food and the prices were very high - 30 EUR per person per day, not including food. As the presenter from next city could not come because of visa problems, stockholm presented for her. Sarajevo is the capital of Bosnia and the organizers have all needed problems solved already: facilities are provided by an UAE company (so they are the best one can get for any kind of money), 20 Mbit of sustained throughput Internet connectivity, very cheap food with good adaptability, 15 minutes from the airport. In total the Sarajevo Debconf would cost around 15-17 EUR per person per day. After that "Brixon boys" presented their city for Debconf7. The presentation was more concentrated on skying and other relaxation issues then on the questions that are more relevant to the organization of such conference as Debconf.</p> <p>>From this meeting and from talking to people later on I have two conclusion on the matter: 1. it would be very good to make a decision on the next Debian conference place slightly more open and also pool people about issues that concern them (which is planned now), but I still think that one person should be entitled to make the final decision; 2. I think Sarajevo is the best choice for next year for many reasons, but most important because of cost. The less it costs per person to hold a Debconf, the more people can be there and the more people could get sponsored travel. Some people might even agree to come to Debconf by a bus, which should be quite possible from most of continental Europe it the conference is in Sarajevo. It would be much cheaper and would still be not as exhausting as the 40 hour flight mambo jumbo that I had to take to get to this event here.</p> <p>Bubulle spoke afterward summarizing the i18n situation in Debian before Debconf6 and the discussions that took place at Debconf6 that intend to improve it. It was a good summary, so you only need to watch the i18n BOF videos if you will be working in the infrastructure.</p> <p>CAcert signing event was conducted after that. I have no idea of the real use of those certificates, but some apparently do.</p> <p>As the final discussion a meeting specifically about the Google Summer of Code i18n infrastructure project was conducted. We were deciding what shall we ask Gintautas (the student that proposed the project) to do, how will we define the scope of his work, so that we can have a definite way of determining if he did that or not be the end of the SoC program. The final decision will ultimately be on me. The result of this meeting was that we will ask Gintautas to take the current code of Pootle and make of it an translation system with clearly separated backend where other translation frontends could be plugged into. After that (optionally) he should work to create such plugins in cooperation with other Debian i18n and Pootle developers and also continue refactoring and remaking the codebase to allow for other plugin development. But the essential part of Gintautas contribution will be a clearly separated translation backend with Pootle frontend and a stable API between them. After the SoC will be over Gintautas will be welcome to present his further vision on the whole infrastructure at the I18N meeting in Extramadura. This work will also serve as a research base to clarify Debian i18n needs, so it is very well possible that at Extramadura it would be decided to abandon the current code and make a new system from scratch in Zope 3. :)</p>Debconf6 day 5: Formal dinner.http://aigarius.com/blog/2006/05/27/debconf6-day-5-formal-dinner/2006-05-27T19:05:21Z2006-05-27T19:05:21ZAigars Mahinovs<p></p><p> </p><p>May 18th.</p> <p>The fifth day of Debconf6 started for me with a very detailed overview of the debian installer. I have already been quite familiar with the system, but did not really know how to debug the debian-installer system, which was a good part of today's presentation.</p> <p>Many were still tired from yesterday's evening's "testing" of international hard liquors. (Or the pancake party?)</p> <p>At the lunch I discovered on my own skin how hard it was to announce something in the restaurant where we were having food - the room had very high ceiling with high an thick separation beams, so the acoustics of the place were just terrible. I had almost enough volume to fill the room, but after many reflections it was incomprehensible. I had to revert to walking around the tables to remind people about the group photo next day and about the place to meet for today's formal dinner.</p> <p>The rest of the day flew by fast and it was soon time for the dinner itself. People slowly gathered at a parking lot behind the hotels and idly chatted while waiting for the boarding call. After a while people stopped minding me and that resulted in several good portraits.</p> <p>We boarded the bus and went to the place of the formal dinner. The place was a large hall where local volunteers had placed the tables in the form of a swirl. That was a very nice touch. People wondered round and round 'till they choose a place they liked. AJ sat at the very inner end of the swirl and I somehow got to sit at his right hand. Not that it matters.</p> <p>At one moment some person took a crown of Ted's head and rushed to put it on AJ's had. Many photos were taken at that moment (most of them very blurry), but I feel this one to be a bit of an irony: CLUE hanging over Ted, but he doesn't quite get it. But enough about him - there was enough fun at the dinner to satisfy anyone.</p> <p>After a while of nice chatting time food started to appear. First the glasses came, then there were the huge 3l bottles of Cola. I managed to avoid the Mexican version of Cola before that, but now when I tried it Mexican Cola tasted very much like the Estonian version and slightly different from UK's or USA's versions. I guess the sugar type used and the water might be of the difference.</p> <p>Few attempts at simulating a spiral "Mexican" wave along the tables were conducted. Only when AJ personally controlled every part of the way by running along the length of the table, the wave succeeded. :)</p> <p>A Mexican band came in to lighten up the mood. They were met with a huge wave of applause and a burst of flashlights. The music was great - lively and exciting. Spanish speaking people knew most of the songs and sang along. But after a short while the music was started to being drowned out by the sound of a rain hitting the roof.</p> <p>Soon after the food was served I heard scream of surprise with a hint of fear. When I turned, I saw that one of the wall of the hall strangely turned into a waterfall - gush of water was streaming from the roof into the building. People looked at the water, took a bunch of pictures, made a few water related jokes, picked their bags up from the floor and ... continued with the fun. I must say that I was slightly scared, but although others might have been scared as well, most did not show it and the event just went on with a half of the hall having a couple centimeters of water. Water also dripped down on some parts of the tables, so people shifted from there to other places.</p> <p>Meanwhile, outside the rain became stronger, wind became faster, thunder became louder and came closer.</p> <p>The climax of the evening was the sudden loss of power. I was jsut standing on the stage when all the lights inside and outside went out at once. For a moment there was a bit of confusion and the evening became slightly scary in a single instant. Then people took out their mobile phones, PDA's and other devices and lighted the place up with the light from their screens. Some others had handlights, and others made slightly more light for a shorter moments by taking flash photographs, for example, of the ceiling. In a few minutes the emergency light went up and after 15 more minutes the main lamps started coming back on.</p> <p>For most people that was enough excitement for the night, so when the rain calmed down and Gunnar announced that first buses are ready go back to the hotel if some people want that, two buses were overfilled with people wanting to get back. Some stayed.</p> <p>More fresh food was cooked then, including some cooked cactus leaves and some grilled meat after which a desert followed with a rollcake that included a swirl of some red jam. Very Debianish :)</p> <p>After a quick local-optimal packing session the hall was left almost empty in a few minutes. The packing algorithm was interesting - one person was collecting all forks, other person was collecting all spoons, other people were only folding tables, while others were handling chairs. The work division was very effective and allowed people to share the work without any kind of central coordination.</p> <p>And we went back .. to work.</p> <p>On the way to the hotel I noticed pixie sitting in the walkway in a very careful was - it turns out she got one of the kittens to trust her and was holding it in her lap. It was sooooo cute. Kawai!</p> <p>Ted: Many questions were raised about Ted, the "fight" at the formal dinner and the following expulsion of Ted from the event and from the Debian project. An I have a unique perspective on that as I was sharing a room with Ted and talked to him and his friend John after the dinner, but before the expulsion notice.</p> <p>I barely noticed the, now widely speculated about, events at the dinner itself. I noticed that at one point in time the lump of people around the door became a bit bigger and that Ted and John were in the middle of it. I heard no screaming and saw no struggle or fighting and did not see anything strange regarding Ted except this and the other event described higher above. Ted was siting by his table with a woman that I for some time believed to be his wife because of the very caring way he was handling her. After considering that he was from Canada, I assumed (with a though of the twisted humor) that she might then be his Mexican lover (either paid or not), but I did not care enough to find out about it or to raise any conflict about it. I remember thinking that it would sound quite funny in context of his latest blog post about killing of prostitutes which might also be the reason why people where very ready to believe the joke that one of Ted's companions said of the woman being paid to come here with Ted "or maybe not".</p> <p>After the event I wane to sleep to be awaken around 5 in the morning by a discussion going on in my room about the dinner. I went into the discussion slightly irritated with a simple argument - inviting people to a party without an explicit permission of the organizer is a bad thing to do. That point sank in quickly and Ted soon was ready to apologize for that. After that a discussion about individual people and motivations went on for another hour. Ted's action were deeply rooted in the confusion of terms with "bravery" and "cowardice" versus "aggression" and "non-confrontational behavior". Ted's motivation was clearly based on avoiding anything that could be considered to be cowardly and putting emphasis on brave actions, however the most of the rest of Debian project is much more in line with the modern world and prefers non-confrontational behavior to any action causing trouble. Most of the time such behavior is essential for comfortable survival of any geek living in non-geek environment.</p> <p>The difference in values between Ted and the rest of our project was just too immense. When I was walking out of the room at around 7 in the morning next day my final sentence was "Ted, even if you spend rest of the Debconf apologizing and making friends, I do not see a future for you in this project." and the most important was that Ted and John seemed to agree with me on that.</p> <p>I soon found out that DAM's agreed with me too and took action just when I was talking to Ted expelling him from the project. He was also advised to leave the Debconf to avoid any further confrontation. It was harsh, but kind of expected for a long time. This event spoiled my mind for a few hours, but ... the Debconf must go on!</p>Debconf6 day 6: Main group photohttp://aigarius.com/blog/2006/05/27/debconf6-day-6-main-group-photo/2006-05-27T19:05:11Z2006-05-27T19:05:11ZAigars Mahinovs<p></p><p> </p><p>May 19th.</p> <p>Fallback from the dinner and Ted's expulsion hanged over the morning of this day, but by the lunchtime it was mostly forgotten and people moved on to more interesting topics.</p> <p>... for example, Sponge Bob! I mean I18N, of course. A big discussion about the future of Debian's I18N infrastructure was the highliht of the morning for me as I expected to later become the mentor of the respective Google SoC project. In some ways need of Debian translators are simple and very similar to the need of all other translators worldwide, but other need are quite different. Coordination with Wordforge to detect both those subgroups of our need was one hot topic, need that are related to OLPC use was another.</p> <p>People went on hacking, but I went towards the pool to plan forward towards the group photos. I needed to check the angles and lighting levels, test the lenses and settings.</p> <p>When 18:00 (the time of the main group photo) approached, clouds covered the sky and it went dark. At 17:58 it started raining. At the last moment Mark took a jump from the 10m tower. He later reflected that the decision was between jumping or remaining the highest point around while the air crackled of ever increasing electricity.</p> <p>People slowly gathered under the roof nearby and waited as told. After around ten minutes most people were gathered and the rain stopped. People ran out into the field and I ran up the diving tower to my selected photography place 10 meters up from the ground. I took a bunch of pictures, more people came, I took some more pictures, others came, I screamed to people to say "Tequilaaaaa" and took loads of pictures. The group photo was done.</p> <p>After that we had a quick and painless keysigning party (only two hours <em>is</em> quick). The trust network grew again.</p> <p>After that there was a lot of dancing on the veranda of the hacklab. It was very cool thing to watch, but gave not so good pictures because of speed and low light. Those two dancing instructors were just great! With this number of DD's we have an expert in anything - dancing, photography, security, religion, patents, biking, ... ... We share their knowledge and we all become better. Inspiring.</p> <p>One minute after midnight around 30 people sneaked into the room of sleeping Andreas and started to sing "happy birthday" ... because it was. Andreas looked very surprised. Very sweet idea. Cudos to the organizers. However it would be nice to turn on the light so that flashes of the 20 cameras would be less blinding. ;)</p>Fun group photoshttp://aigarius.com/blog/2006/05/21/fun-group-photos/2006-05-21T05:05:19Z2006-05-21T05:05:19ZAigars Mahinovs<p></p><p> </p><div> <p>The next day after the main group photo we decided to try and make something that is more funny and more sunny, so we decided to try to make a group photo in the pool. The event was completely voluntary and meant more for fun. At first we tried to create a shape of the Debian swirl in the pool.</p> <p> <a href="https://gallery.debconf.org/aigars/dc6_pool_swirl"> <img alt="Debconf6 pool swirl" src="https://gallery.debconf.org/albums/aigars/dc6_pool_swirl.sized.jpg"> </a> </p> <p>It really was the real thing: the shape was never perfect or to the spec, more people were coming in all the time, some people stood back and watched, some sprayed others with water, some tried to organize, some almost drowned ... all in all just like the Debian project. :)</p> <p>After that we also took a simpler group picture in the pool</p> <p> <a href="https://gallery.debconf.org/aigars/dc6_pool_group"> <img alt="Debconf6 pool group" src="https://gallery.debconf.org/albums/aigars/dc6_pool_group.sized.jpg"> </a> </p> <p>After I left, a flame^Wsplashwar ensued. Loads of fun.</p> </div>Debconf6 group photo AKA bits from the official Debconf6 photographerhttp://aigarius.com/blog/2006/05/19/debconf6-group-photo-aka-bits-from-the-official-debconf6-photographer/2006-05-19T21:05:31Z2006-05-19T21:05:31ZAigars Mahinovs<p></p><p> </p><div> <p>After a bit of stress, sweat and tears (only from the rain) the annual Debconf official group photo has been created. Enjoy.</p> <p> <a href="https://gallery.debconf.org/aigars/dc6_group_photo_big"> <img alt="Debconf6 group photo" src="https://gallery.debconf.org/albums/aigars/dc6_group_photo_big.sized.jpg"> </a> </p> <p>PS. Later there will be a post about how the photo was created and other events that happened today, and maybe tomorrow there will be another Debconf group photo - a smaller, but warmer one. Stay tuned :)</p> </div>Debconf6 day 4: The Daytrip + some hard liquorhttp://aigarius.com/blog/2006/05/18/debconf6-day-4-the-daytrip-some-hard-liquor/2006-05-19T00:05:47Z2006-05-19T00:05:47ZAigars Mahinovs<p></p><p> </p><p>May 17th.</p> <p>Just before the daytrip an idea to go for a breakfast came, so at around 8:30 a small group went off to the local market in search for some food. We were seated by a counter and the food was prepared on a large coal heated metal sheet just in front of us. Learning from the last experience of such kind I ordered two tortilias, but I barely ate one of them - it just did not feel right. (Later I was kind of glad that I didn't because my stomach felt a bit funny until the next morning. I guess the body can feel what is good for it.)</p> <p>After we came back to hotel, the buses arrived - large, metallic buses of the GMC (General Motors Company, I assume) that looked like they came straight from 1960s - 1970s. I expected that they will fell like frying pans in the hot midday sun, but in the end the buses turned out to be very nice and comfortable.</p> <p>A half an hour before the leaving time people started to group up. Some took the time to chat, some took the time to take random group photos.</p> <p>The drive to the place was two hours long. The guide told us a bit about the region where we are and its history. I do not remember much of it except that this state has always been the rich farming valley that provided food to many other regions. We also found out the name of the volcano whose picture I took earlier - it was the active <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popocat%C3%A9petl">Popocatepetl</a>. I have heard that name before. That is the first name that I know here.</p> <p>On arrival to the Xochicalco archaeological site we left our buses and wen into the on-site museum. The museum was built in a barren place without electricity and any water installations, so it was decided to make the museum to be very ecological - sunlight is used wherever possible, electricity is gathered by solar panels, rain water is gathered, collected and purified using natural treatment methods. ALso the building materials are very strange - the buildings look very <em>green</em>. The museum was of the classical site with texts and scenes and bunches of artifacts and a "no flash" requirement. That kind of impacts the pictures. Additionally the glass behind which the artifacts were was way too reflective.</p> <p>After we were done with the museum we went on a 5 minute walk under the midday sun to the site itself. It was really, really hot. People got sunburns later But the view was great.</p> <p>On the site there were some kind of containers that were masked as stones. They might be local trash containers or something else.</p> <p>The whole excursion on the site took around two hours and was spent slowly walking from one shade to another while listening to the explanations of our guide. There were 6 groups in total, our group (the Pink 3) had around 20 people.</p> <p>The ancient city was a well protected multilayer city where people of certain social status were basically locked inside on of the levels and people of the higher level governed them. At all levels there were pyramids and temples and places for parties. Our guide said that having a party almost every week is traditional for people of this region, it is a tradition derived from calendars of the ancient times.</p> <p>There were several ball courts on the territory. Very fascinating game (judging from the available data). The winner was seen as becoming closer to godliness. We have no idea what happened to the loser. But there was a sauna where players went <em>before</em> the game.</p> <p>The excavations at Acropolis section (the rich people section) is still going on.</p> <p>But the main religious place - the temple of the feathered serpent was restored magnificently. It is relatively small (compared to my previously visited pyramids), but very well preserved and restored. Most of the carvings were fully visible.</p> <p>In the end the site was nowhere near as impressive as Teotichuan. Not even close. The final temple was a nice piece, but the rest ...</p> <p>After that we went for a lunch at an all-you-can-eat Mexican buffet. They were obviously notified of our arrival because seating and feeding 300+ people otherwise would be very hard. We sat in our seats and then went for the food at table by table basis. Th food was nice and simple. I had a lot and really considered skipping dinner when we came back.</p> <p>There was also some local fauna at the place: a extremely friendly and lovely chameleon, a meat eating parrot, a hamster, a dog and a pair of pigeons. Apparently all of them were up for adoption. A lot of cuteness ensued.</p> <p>After lunch we drove for an hour to the capital of the Morero state and went to the local market for souvenirs. The shopping was fast and productive even despite the soft rain.</p> <p>In the evening after the daytrip and after the dinner there was a hard liquor party. Hard liquor from multiple countries was presented. I could not evaluate it properly, but I could evaluate the properly prepared Japanese green tea. It was really magnificent. This party was slower then the wine and cheese party - you can't rush with hard liquors.</p> <p>In parallel a pancake party was also taking place in the hotel's kitchen. I looked very nice but I was very full by then.</p>Very quick notehttp://aigarius.com/blog/2006/05/18/very-quick-note/2006-05-18T22:05:43Z2006-05-18T22:05:43ZAigars Mahinovs<p></p><p> </p><p>I have no idea how Debconf7 organizers will top this dinner. It was extremely wonderfully exciting and everyone had a great blast! More about it tomorrow when my nerves calm down from the experience.</p>Debconf6 day 3: BOOT!http://aigarius.com/blog/2006/05/18/debconf6-day-3-boot/2006-05-18T22:05:23Z2006-05-18T22:05:23ZAigars Mahinovs<p></p><p> </p><p>May 16th.</p> <p>In the morning I was kind of lazy and watched the talks via the webcast which worked very nice. I was even able to give some comments via IRC feedback. Very nice experience. One good idea popped up in the IRC there - it would also be useful to have an audio only webcast to conserve bandwidth.</p> <p>The "early" morning discussion about etch release and kernel to use in it was quite interesting to watch while I did not necessary got all the things that were said there.</p> <p>Then in the tower there was a great BOF session about speeding up the boot. It was a very nice session because there was a lot of discussion, lot of questions and comments from the audience.</p> <p>A GPL license talk followed the boot BOF and again I watched it via the webcast from the hacklab. Convenient. But then my network went down somehow I found it faster to walk to the tower then to get it back up. Several good questions were asked about the problems with current GPLv3 draft. Some ideas formed about how to fix the Affero clause using "public performance" phrasing. An insightful insight into the brain of debian-legal.</p> <p>Mao is deep ingrained into the brains of Debian Developers</p> <pre> <br>marga: it has been observed that debian members respect each other. <br>Myon: are you explaining the rules? <br>marga: Myon, actually, I wasn't, but I wouldn't mind explaining them <br>dondelelcaro: Myon, is that against the rules? <br>Myon: I would have to take a penalty card if I said 'yes' <br>dondelelcaro: talking.<br> </pre> <p>Enrico did the social guidelines dance outlining the recommendations for peaceful coexistence without resorting to telletubbie or inquisition practices. It sounded very reasonable as recommendations, but those must never be promoted to any kind of policy. Enrico also mentioned that.</p> <p>Penny Peach, we miss you.</p> <p>After dinner a bunch of small mexican-looking females bunched first around the Japanese guys and then around the group where I was in. They were all smiling and very exited. They spoke very fast Spanish while rubbing their clothes and making horizontal back-and-forth motions with their hands. Nobody of us spoke Spanish. And they kept speaking and rubbing. My mind raced to present one unlikely reasoning after another, but nothing really fitted the situation. After a few minutes of total confusion we found a Spanish speaker who found out that they wanted ... an iron. An iron to iron their clothes. Doh! I was so confused that I only got 1 blurry photo from the ... incident.</p> <p>Random note: the fan control system here is quite ... buttony.</p> <p>Then we had a BOF about packaging of web applications and other applications that need database access. Maintainers and users of such things will be happy to hear that the situation is being resolved and there will most probably be a policy for etch+1 for that. Large ISPs and hosting providers will be happy to hear that their need are also heard (or will be heard if you join the process) and most probably it will be possible to activate/deactivate a web application for a certain user at a certain path of a certain virtual host with a single command that can also be scripted. In any case if you are interested in this development, please participate now, so that your need can be heard too.</p> <p>After the BOFs the, now official and scheduled, wine and cheese party started. It was briefly interrupted by rain, but the tables were moved under the roof in seconds and the party continued. There were around 40 different cheeses. Most of them were French and almost all of them were very tasty (some were .. an acquired taste :)). I can't say anything about the wine (I do not like the taste of alcohol), but other tasters were expressing very positive remarks. The party went on for a long time with more and more cheeses and vines brought up with time.</p> <p>There was some more hair coloring going on.</p> <p>Then there was the demonstration of use of duck tape on an almost professional HD 1080i video camera.</p> <p>And then there was the public demonstration of present Debian swirl tattoos. Impressive.</p> <p>When I was just going to go to the bed, I was lured into another game of Mao. I must say that playing Mao right after the <em>wine</em> and cheese part is ... interesting. Some girls got ... lucky ... seven.</p> <p>And there was still quite a lot of hacking going on around two in the night when I went to sleep. Tomorrow is the daytrip.</p>